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The Musical Work: Reality or Invention?Reality or Invention?$
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Michael Talbot

Print publication date: 2000

Print ISBN-13: 9780853238256

Published to Liverpool Scholarship Online: June 2013

DOI: 10.5949/UPO9781846313615

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‘On the Problems of Dating’ or ‘Looking Backward and Forward with Strohm’

‘On the Problems of Dating’ or ‘Looking Backward and Forward with Strohm’

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(p.231) 11 ‘On the Problems of Dating’ or ‘Looking Backward and Forward with Strohm’
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The Musical Work: Reality or Invention?
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Lydia Goehr

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Liverpool University Press
DOI:10.5949/liverpool/9780853238256.003.0012

This chapter is a response to Reinhard Strohm's ‘Looking Back at Ourselves: The Problem with the Musical Work-Concept’. Whereas Lydia Goehr chose in her Imaginary Museum to look back at the emergence of the work-concept from the perspective of 1800, Strohm urges her (and others) to look forward to 1800 from a historical juncture situated at least 300 years earlier. Goehr also demonstrates how a historian's or a philosopher's choice of paradigmatic examples, which is never made automatically or innocently, inevitably colours the subsequent discourse. Strohm is not in favour of exaggerating watershed moments or paradigm changes in the history of music, and of identifying conceptual origins with these significant moments of change. In addition, he raises the issues of continuity and discontinuity, of sameness and difference, and of individuating concepts, in relation to Goehr's reading of Nikolaus Listenius.

Keywords:   Reinhard Strohm, work-concept, Lydia Goehr, Imaginary Museum, history, music, Nikolaus Listenius

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